Did you find that ironic?
Not really. Ah, it, it's uh, you know, I think, in, in retrospect it's, it's, it was a campaign built on racism, the Wallace campaign. And that's what it really was. I mean, we could, at the time, we didn't want to admit, and we didn't even think it. But it, it, that's what it was. That was the hardcore of that campaign was, was anti-civil rights. And then un--to a small degree, anti--uh, the, the war protesters too, the, the Vietnam war protesters.