You were at a lot of these rallies and things. How did you personally feel about the reaction Wallace was getting?
Well, I got a little afraid of it, you know, I'm, I was more of a genteel Southern segregationist, you know, we were taught, you know, the paternalistic attitude about Black people that, you know, they, uh, were really good people, but they just didn't quite, they weren't quite up to the level of, of White people in, in any respect. That's what we were, was imbued in us through our culture, so to speak, and, and, uh, it just, uh, uh, to, to see people that would just vehemently want, you know, kill Black people and so forth, and that's what, the some of the Northern ethnic groups exhibited at some of the rallies. In fact, I know, I never will forget one up in Milwaukee, at the arena up there, Father Groppi, who was a, a civil rights leader had a group of, of people there with signs and so forth, protesting the Vietnam war, and, and protesting the, uh, anti-civil rights, uh, and protesting Governor Wallace too, for that matter, and some of the local ethnic blue-collar workers, I don't know what their derivation was, Polish, German, whatever, in Milwaukee, started an encounter with them, and it got into, to violence, right within the arena. And, and us good old boys from down South were trying to, to save the Groppi people, is what it ended up being, but it got real frightening. It sure did. Particularly in, in some of those large metropolitan areas in the North.