At the time what was your sense of how the National Guard was doing?
The mass National Guard had been very spotty. Ah, there had been much too much indiscriminate shooting. They had shot out the street lights, which is the worst thing you can do in a situation like that because that makes it even more likely that the law enforcement people are going to be shot at. It creates a fear in the community. It creates, ah, ah, fear really in the enforcement officials as well. So that it was not going well when we arrived**.