Can you tell me about touring the city later that afternoon and what was decided at that point regarding--
Sure. I, ah, went around the city with the Governor and the Mayor and saw what was happening on the ground and, ah, asked questions as we were going around as to what the situation was, the predictions were, for, ah, ah, the night and the future. And as a result of that got a pretty good feel from a quick trip as to what the seriousness of the situation was. I then came back into town and I met with the federal officials, ah, the, ah, U.S. Attorney, the FBI and others to get their assessment of how serious the matter was and whether it could be contained by the local police and military forces or whether or not, in their judgment, we ought to commit federal forces. After that I met with the community leaders.
I just want to ask you to be a little more specific. When you were touring, what did it look like?
Well, in places the fires were still burning, ah, looting had been taking place, it was obviously from the broken windows and all of that, that, ah, looting had been extensive. On the other hand, it was in the afternoon in daylight so that, ah, it looked a lot calmer than it certainly had the night before--