Interview with C. T. Vivian
QUESTION 11
INTERVIEWER:

GREAT. O.K., AND ONE MORE QUESTION ON THAT UH, JIM CROW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT THTS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS, CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY UH, HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE JIM CROW PRACTICES?

C. T. Vivian:

Well, you see uh, uh, Jim Crow was segregation itself, and uh, it meant that two signs were up, it uh, meant that you uh, that you had to drink at a colored fountain, and colored water, as often was said. Uh, there were white fountains. It also delineated white life in another way. Uh, Jim Crow meant that everything was truly separated and that uh, uh, given that separation uh, blacks found themselves always in a negative role—seeing themselves as negative being treated as negative, until they saw themselves negative. The victim, uh, began to even blame themselves for being a victim.