YES, NO, I'M JUST, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE TIME. IT'S 6:30.

Oh, I'm not, oh, that's unimportant, 6:30 is not important at the other end, half-hour difference is not going to make a bit of difference there.

WELL, I THOUGHT WE, WE DID A VERY INTERESTING INTERVIEW WITH JOE SMITHERMAN.

Yes, is that right? Yes, he's Mayor.

YES, HE'S A WONDERFUL GUY, UH, AND HE GAVE A WONDERFUL INTERVIEW, WAS, SO IT WAS YOU AND ANDY AND…

Oh yes, uh, and, and Dorothy Cotton and uh, uh, how many others I don't really know uh, but there was half a dozen of them.

O.K. ‘CAUSE WHAT I THINK WOULD BE USEFUL TO THAT FILM IS A LITTLE BIT, TINY BIT OF A SETTING OF WHERE YOU WERE, A TINY BIT, BUT MAINLY YOUR OWN REACTION TO HEARING THAT, AND I, I'M…

Jackson is his name—I got it Dennis uh, uh…

I THINK IT'S SUFFICIENT TO SAY THAT THERE WAS JUST A, YOU KNOW, GROUP OF YOU TOGETHER WATCHING…

Yes, O.K., see, I want to say it at, at uh, at uh. . .[overlap]

THE QUESTION IS JUST TO GET ON FILM C.T.'S REACTION TO, TO [unintelligible].

Oh, cause it's very important because uh, see Martin, a tear came down Martin's face.

NOW WAS MARTIN THERE?

Oh yes, oh that's what I'm talking about see, see. . .[overlap]. . .Oh yes, I witnessed this.

I'VE HEARD THAT STORY BEFORE ABOUT THAT TEAR COMING, THAT'S GREAT.

That's, see, that's, that's it, see, and because we cheered and I remember looking over at Martin and he was sitting there silently and a tear was running down his cheek, right?

I THINK YOU, AT MOST, A SENTENCE ON THE SETTING, JUST A GROUP OF YOU WERE THERE, YOU KNOW, WERE TOGETHER, UH, AT A HOME IN SELMA, O.K.? AND I HATE TO TELL YOU THIS, BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS. I WANT YOU TO DO THIS AND THEN WE ARE LITERALLY OUT OF FILM.