Interview with C. T. Vivian


C. T. Vivian:

Yes, I know what you mean ‘cause I did that before. Uh, uh, uh, an excellent example of what I'm talking about is a person I remember very well, who marched in that first march with us uh, to City Hall. Uh, he was a seminarian at Vanderbilt. He had his assignment at one of the local churches, one of the large southern Baptist churches in the city, they immediately took him away from any contact with white uh, parishioners and with young white people in particular, and had him showing films in a back room, uh, where he would not be seen uh, would have no contact, and then eventually, he was dismissed and pushed out and pushed out away from any contact with the white community. Uh, uh, then, then you had others like uh, a young man who joined us on the line picketing, who was beaten by the thugs. Uh, those who joined us—white—were particularly picked out for misuse. Uh, because it was proof that this myth of solidarity was broken, that it was not a monolithic structure, that all white people didn't, didn't hate black people, uh, that we could live together and did.