So, let's stand back in 1977 or '78, as you look back over all that's been happening, um, as a, as a teacher, and as Black parent, was it worth it?
Oh, absolutely. Um, the question of whether the struggle was worth it is, is probably something that need never be asked. As African American people in this country, first of all, nothing will ever come easy for us, and our existence in this country is going to be marked by struggle, um, for housing, for adequate health care, for education, for control of our destiny and our neighborhoods. Um, that's a struggle that has to be waged, and it's a struggle that we educate our young children to understand they have to be a part of. So many young people now look around and say, "I don't have anything to latch on to." We have to educate and teach our young people about the struggles we participated in in the early '70s, the late '70s, particularly around quality education, control of our neighborhood, control of our school system, um, and they- and then they'll understand their role in the, the '90s in terms of continuing their struggle. We're far from done.