Why do you say that?
Because he didn't get more involved in it.
Did they talk about it? I mean, could you overhear any conversations?
Well, yeah, yeah, you could tell--
What did they say?
I don't know that they said. You know, it, it just seemed like they thought he would probably get right down with them and fight for their rights and he didn't want to get involved in it.
I thought you had overheard some conversation.
No, no, we didn't, we weren't there.