Interview with Philip Watkins
QUESTION 1
JAMES A. DeVINNEY:

OK, tell me what the prison was like before the riots.

PHILIP WATKINS:

Well, before the riot, we seemed to be getting along with the, the population we had. Of course, they had a riot in Rikers Island, and they had one in Auburn, and within a period of time, I'm talking maybe about a year, we--

JAMES A. DeVINNEY:

Now let me just stop you, ah, don't scratch because that's coming up on the sound roll, OK. OK, OK within the last few months.

PHILIP WATKINS:

Within a year or so we inherited all these ringleaders maybe from the riots and ruckus Auburn and they put them in Attica because I think they thought Attica was a secure place to hold them. And I feel that maybe this, we just overlay--loaded the guys that wanted prison reform or were just rebelli--rebellious.