Could you talk a little bit about the anti-war work that you were involved with and how the Panthers may have interacted with you in any of the anti-war work that you were involved with, and also other radical organizations in Berkeley, in the Bay Area at that time.
The Panthers were very supportive, I mean, in terms of the anti-war struggle. They, they would come and speak at our events. They had an analysis that they put out in the Black Panther paper, basically, you know, against the government of the United States, and supporting the Vietnamese. They were consistently supportive. Because of the attack on them as an organization and individually, they didn't come in large numbers to our, to our demonstrations. But, you know, Hilliard in particular, and, uh, there was, there was a group of Panthers at the Berkeley campus, uh, a man named John Turner, and Jim Nabors, actually I think Turner might have been, anyway, I think Turner might have been shot, I don't really know what happened. But anyway, they were the Panthers who were on campus, and there were also some, some, Doug Miranda and a group of Panthers at Maric College. So they were sort of the student faction and they would organize both Blacks and Whites there to support them, to raise money for them, to, to support the Black Panther paper. And they would also come and speak at our events, but there wasn't this organizational merger. But there was all this support and basically defense of them.
Okay, let's top, just for a minute.
Take five coming up.