Could you talk a little bit about the relationship between White radical organizations and the Black Panther party when it came to the war, and also your personal sense of your involvement in anti-war work and your feelings that led you to that involvement.
Well, there was essentially a mutual support system. Um, those of us who had certain skills, like lawyers, went and did draft counseling for the Panthers, they worked in their, in their legal clinics to help them with, um, you know, sort of just day to day problems that people might have legally. You know, doctors, you know, worked in their medical clinics, donated a lot of their time and energy to, to help with, you know, those kinds of needs. I mean, people worked in their food programs. There was, there was those of us who basically worked on defense. I mean, I worked a lot on raising money to defend David Hilliard, you know, and all, there was just one defense committee after another, as you can imagine. And we organized our biggest mobilization was in New Haven, to, we organized about 25,000 people around basically the, the, the Northeast to come to New Haven to demonstrate in support of Erika Huggins and Bobby Seale. And that was this, you know, we came, we brought all these people on planes from the West Coast. I mean, that was like, you know, a show of solidarity. And that happened con--consistently. The Panthers then would help us, you know, they would come and support our rallies. They would basically, you know, they had a very, very clear and developed analysis of, you know, the war in Vietnam and supported our struggle against the war in Vietnam. It wasn't, we didn't have the same priorities. Um, but at that time, I mean, I was very much involved in this early women's movement, also very involved in the anti-war movement, and also very involved in the Black Panther movement, to the extent that we could support it, and fight for it, and defend it, and saw them as our political leadership. And, I mean, we saw all of this, if you think of, now we've come in 1988 to a period where there's all these single issues. Everybody's in their different organizations, whereas this was, you know, we were part of this multi--sort of revolutionary struggle, and in one day, you're struggling on all fronts, right?