So did you believe that the Panthers were the vanguard in terms of a revolution?
In terms of an American revolution, yes. Ah, our sort of political theory at that, at that time was basically sort of adhering to this third world theory that we thought, you know, in terms of liberation movements, that they were the leading, the cutting edge against the war, uh, the war against imperialism, U.S. imperialism. And then later, U.S.-Soviet social imperialism. And that, you know, the Algerian revolution, the Cuban revolution, the Vietnamese revolution, the Chinese revolution, that those revolutions were setting the tone. And Africa, all these African countries were fighting against their colonial rule, if not already becoming nations. And, uh, so we were sort of growing up in, in this period politically. And so we felt that because the United States, as an imperialist country, had so oppressed the rest of the world, and also its domestic minorities, and particularly Blacks because of, you know, slavery, and, that we actually, and then when you have a party like the Black Panther Party basically culminating a lot of that historical, you know, sort of experience into a, a viable, to us at that point a viable political-ideological theory as to how you can make revolution in the United States. And also having a practical program that sort of synthesized that analysis and that sort of ideological approach. Ah, you know, in their ten point programming, we really felt, well, we felt we had a lot to contribute. But that since they had sort of brought all these things together and they were in, to our minds at that point, the heroes, the cutting edge, the vanguard. I definitely feel we agreed with that at the time.
--And Huey being the sort of personification of that 'cause he was the one that in some sense was the most intellectual of the party, although Eldridge was, but Eldridge was not as serious ideologically I think, in terms of the party itself.