Were you surprised by the White backlash in the ethnic community? Like, once Stokes had won the primary, the number of people that suddenly, uh, came out to, to, to vi--vi--vigorously oppose Stokes, people that thought Locher might've wo--win before. Were you surprised by that?
No, and I don't think it was that much of a backlash. They just, uh, they weren't used to the idea of a Black mayor and they didn't want one but it wasn't too bad. We had friends on the west side. Ah, and people that worked on the west side for us. They were White.