Once again, the second debate. You were at John Marshall High School--
On the west side.
...on the west side. Talk us through that again. What did, what did Stokes say?
Well there were very few Blacks over there to start out with, I think just a handful of us from the campaign. And Blacks didn't go on the west side too much. I mean did--never did feel too welcome. And Stokes introduced the matter of race into the campaign**. And I, I guess it took Seth quite by surprise, and he said, "Well, well, well, I guess if you don't vote for Carl Stokes, you're a racist." And our hearts just sank because that was his very best remark of the whole night. And I'm sure that by Carl introducing this into the campaign caught him by surprise, but he certainly rose to the occasion, you can believe that. And it scared us** to death and, and then you could just sort of feel the hostility. And we were very glad to get back to get back to the east side and get out of that high school.