But was it particularly significant that this Black man had won the mayoral race? Did that seem like an important...?
Oh yes, it was a first! I mean it was quite important. We had done something that hadn't been done anyplace in the country before and since folks laughed at us in '65 and we pulled it off in '67, I guess we felt pretty smug about it. And, uh, yeah, we, we, we were very happy about it. And we said, if it can be done here, it can be done other places**. And I've always felt that we started the trend, and I've always been very happy about that.
'Cause after then, Black mayors jumped up all over: Bradley, in the large cities.
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