Was it enjoyable, was it fun?
Oh it was a lot of fun. Ah, we had never had the opportunity to really run a major campaign before. We'd always been campaign workers and everything, but to map out the strategy for it and so forth and so on, lot of fun! And in 1965 of course we didn't have any money whatsoever so every time a newsman would come, especially from CBS, and want a bit of news, what's happening in the campaign today, this, that, and the other, we would beg buttons off of him, we'd get CBS. And I think Carl Rowan was coming out here at that particular time. "He said, "What are you doing with all those buttons?" We said, "Well your buttons are, are our candidate's initial, Carl B. Stokes." He said, "You wouldn't!" We said, "But we are, we're using 'em."
Could you just hold that up a second.
That little one. Then of course we had money enough to buy buttons and things for the rest of the campaign, for '67.