The Black politicians. How did they react to Stokes in '65 and what change did you see in '67?
Well in '65 they thought the whole thing was a joke. They didn't think Carl had a chance. And only one elected official came out for Carl. And that was James Bell in Ward 11. Ah, and, but when the campaign was over with and Carl only lost by two thousand votes, it convinced the rest of the Black politicians that, yes, he could win. So we had no trouble whatsoever in getting their support in '67.