When you came here thirty years or so ago to Miami, what was it like for you?
Well, it was a different experience. I, I w--I grew up in New York, and I lived there most of my young adult life. And so when I got to Miami was a little bit different. I was really surprised at some of the things, at some of the customs that was a, I guess you'd say of the area at the time. Of course we had segregation. That was different, segregation was happening all over the United States and I suppose there was discrimination even in New York and prejudice and everything else. But it's just different. When you got down to Miami then you saw the signs, you know, "Back of the bus" and those kind of things. So you know, we experienced that and that was different. But then I think the other thing that was different is that in the, those days the Black people lived basically all in the same communities and there was a little bit more cohesiveness. Ah, there was businesses flourishing on the avenues, 2nd Avenue, 3rd Avenue. And it was really a fun place in spite of a lot of things that would appear to be negative, such as the segregation and the discrimination, and the prejudice-type things that I just mentioned to you. But it was a fun place. I mean, a lot of things were happening in Miami at that time. And I kind of enjoyed it.