DID HE EVER TALK TO YOU ABOUT ANY OF THESE ISSUES LIKE CIVIL RIGHTS SINCE YOU WERE FROM TEXAS, DID HE LOOK TO YOU FOR SOME SORT OF SUPPORT?
No, I don't recall him ever mentioning it to me, but I knew that I came up there on a platform of, of fair treatment for all people, that was my campaign plan. Treat - fairness to everybody. And he had been uh somewhat anti, not anti, anti to civil, anti lynching bill, he hadn't shown any uh, particular interest in civil rights, so I got elected. When I got elected with practically no financial support in Texas and he was elected with all the financial support anybody could want, he knew then that it would be duck soup for him to be, in Texas for him to be for civil rights and get elected, with all his means and all the press for him and the press was all against me.