Any sense of you--the riot?
Yes, I can remember walking the streets of many of the cities I was in working out urban problems, and you could feel the smoldering resentment of the people in those trapped areas as they were excluded from any kind of voice. I ha--my major experience was Newark, where an Italian mayor was using the building of a hospital and medical school to displace the concentration of Blacks so that he wouldn't have to face a Black majority the next election. That anger you could feel, in the early '60s, growing, and I suppose it's the disappointment of the, of the man-child in the promised land. It was growing and it was not a surprise to me it, it blew into an explosion in the early '60s.