Who were those people? The leaders who, who did it well?
Well, certainly on the, among the Black community you had some extraordinary leadership at the time: Vernon Jordan, Whitney Young, others of that kind who were very good. And then, the private sector emerged. The foundations began taking an immediate interest, and some of them quite actively, and intelligently. There was a business leadership, I could never forget the head of Prudential who responded to the call of Lyndon Johnson for immediate housing to solve those problems and there was this billion dollar housing program that the insurance industries put together. And then there were private citizens who had stature and were accepted across the line of Black and White.