Tell me about your first reaction to Malcolm X.

First reaction was the stereotype reaction, that--

Reaction to what?

The first reaction to Malcolm X was the stereotype reaction, that is, here is a Black man who looks like he could be dangerous just on the basis of color. And I didn't understand what he represented. Later, I came to appreciate the man, and in retrospect, I think there was a tragedy that he was not around longer on the American scene. I don't know how many Americans share what, my own impression, but I'm being honest about mine, it went from fear and hostility to deep appreciation.

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