THERE CAME A POINT WHEN DR. KING SAID, WE… HAD AGREED THERE WOULD BE NO MORE DEMONSTRATIONS. AND THEN HAD BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL, CAME OVER AND SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT THAT WAY. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT MEETING?
I think that Fred was the leader of the local but he'd been in the hospital and we had reached pretty much the conclusions—in fact, Dr. King had talked to Robert Kennedy, ah, and Fred, I think, frankly was saying that nobody could settle the movement but him. And we had a little confrontation where I had to physically restrain him. And ah, fortunately at the very mOment that I gr-ahbed him and threw him up against the wall, ah, Robert Kennedy called him, and ah, Bobby Kennedy convinced him that the President was sincere about passing civil rights legislation. And then he told me i could go out and dismiss the kids. But see, we had 5,000 kids in jail that we were getting out of jail. And he had another 500 down there that he was putting in jail, we had no money. Ah, it was a potential disaster, and ah, it was just one of the little, ah, human moments when ah, well, it worked out.
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