Back then did you agree with that decision? Did Chicago seem like it was too ambitious a project?
Well I was always one that favored the South and I always analyzed the problem of America as reform of the South, that at that time the lock that southern chairmen had on the Congress of the United States influenced the appointment of judges in the North, influenced military spending, influenced agriculture policy. I mean the South controlled the Senate. And so I said until you have, in those days I thought a two party system and an integrated South, you weren't going to be able to deal with the problems of urban America anyway, that the problems of urban America were, directly related to Congressional expenditures. You could put money into rural areas, you could put money into farm programs, but you didn't have the same Senatorial constituency for the cities. And one of the reasons was that you had two parties in the cities and you had a one party system in the South.