Last question. There were, SCLC in Chicago was described by some people as being between, it's a cliche, a rock and a hard place, in that you had the White neighborhoods that were so enraged by the marches, but you also had groups that had been motivated by Black Power and you had Bob Lucas of CORE in Chicago and Mano Sharboro[SIC] of SNCC who wanted to continue the marches, who were much more militant. Did this put pressure on SCLC in Chicago?
It was the same kind of pressure we'd been in all along. I mean, from the very earliest days in Albany, it was SNCC that wanted to up the ante. In Birmingham it was the guys in the pool hall that wanted to launch a violent movement. In Selma we had had some tensions with SNCC again. There was nothing unusual about this. This was the life that we lived. We were caught between a rock and a hard place, and yet, I think we were quite comfortable there because we believed we were right. And we believed that disciplined, well-organized, organized goodwill, i.e., non-violence would prevail. And that it was the only way to bring about change in America.