Now, we referred to Mitch a little bit, but can you tell me a little bit more about him? What was he like?
Mitch wanted to be the head guy in this thing, so he never did give other folks credit. 'Course, he gets up and in one of his books that he never saw a man he didn't like, and turned right around, and I have some letters from him, said his butler was a son of a bitch, and talking about these other, and another thing was—the guy out there, well, he was in a different branch, but, I can't think of his name right now, but you know who I'm talking about it. If I could just—
Ward? Ward Rogers?
No, not Ward. Ward didn't have it, he just messed up, that's all.